Thursday, March 28, 2024

Turkey, Izmir Gay Travel Guide. Cruising, Bars, Clubs, Hotels

Lilith - LGBT Party in Izmir.
Venue: Hangout Cure, Izmir.
Date: April 6th, 2024 @ 21:30
Organized byLilith Queer Disco


Gay Bars:  Lilith Queer Disco
Website:  Instagram & Twitter
Lilith Queer Disco is a group of Turkish queer people organizing LGBT+ and friendly parties in different venues in Izmir. Please visit their social media accounts listed above to follow the parties and events.

Turkey, Izmir Gay Travel Guide. Cruising, Bars, Clubs, Hotels: Izmir gay and lesbian travel guide. Information about gay friendly hotels, gay bars, clubs, restaurants, cafe shops, hamams, saunas, Turkish baths, cruising spots, cinemas, tours

Wednesday, March 27, 2024

Aktualisiert 2024 – Praktischer und vollständiger Gay-Guide für Istanbul

"Aquarius Sauna - Vor zwei Jahren sah es nicht viel besser aus, aber es waren neben dem sich für Massage anbietenden Personal auch noch Gäste da. Diesmal war ich zweimal am Abend und ich muss sagen, es ist nicht mehr als ein überteuertes Bordell. Für wenige Minuten Spaß auf einer Massagepritsche werden Preise wie für eine ganze Nacht in einer Hotelsuite gefordert."


Aktualisiert 2024 – Praktischer und vollständiger Gay-Guide für Istanbul: Vollständige Liste der LGBT-Veranstaltungsorte in Istanbul. Druckbarer und kurzer Leitfaden zu Schwulenbars und -clubs in Istanbul sowie zu Hamam, Sauna, Cruising-Bereichen, Lesben- und Transgender-Clubs.

Tuesday, March 26, 2024

Gay Istanbul Guide - Gay Bars, Clubs, Saunas, Hotels, Tours, Map

The gay scene in Istanbul is vibrant and diverse. LGBTQ events and activities have gained visibility since the late 1980s. Over the past few decades, the number of gay venues has grown significantly. 

Gay Nightlife in Istanbul

Istanbul Gay Bar


Gay Istanbul Guide - Gay Bars, Clubs, Saunas, Hotels, Tours, Map: Everything about gay life in Istanbul. Up-to date Istanbul LGBT guide of bars, clubs, saunas, cruising spots, hotels, gay map, events, parties, safety warnings and more

Monday, March 25, 2024

Guide gay pratique et complet d'Istanbul - Mis à jour pour 2024

"Cihangir Sauna - pas vraiment d accueuil , mais bon on ne vient pas pour ça , j ai bien profité et c le principal ,clientèlre ,pas très accueillantes et souriantes ..."

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Sunday, March 24, 2024

Gay Sauna, Turkish Baths and Hamams in Istanbul

Gay Friendly Sauna and Turkish Baths in Istanbul

Istanbul Gay Sauna


Hammam is the Eastern variant of a steam bath, which can be categorized as a wet relative of the sauna. Europeans learned about the hamam via contacts with Turkey hence the European name for it: "Turkish" hamam.


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Thursday, March 21, 2024

LGBT parties in Istanbul and other Turkish Cities

Deep Purple Concert
Venue: Küçük Çiftlik Park, İstanbul
Date: Jun 25, 2024 @ 18:00
Tickets: Biletix.com

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Tuesday, March 19, 2024

Club Tattoo - Gay Bars and Clubs in Kusadasi, Turkey

LGBT VENUE REVIEWS 

"One of the best gay clubs in Turkey. Many hot guys and good music and good drinks."

Kusadasi Gay Club Tattoo


Club Tattoo - Gay Bars and Clubs in Kusadasi, Turkey: Club Tattoo - Information about gay bars and clubs in Kusadasi. Click for guest reviews, location map, pictures, videos, parties, events and announcement about the venue. Turkeygay.Net is the ultimate guide of gay bars and clubs in Kusadasi

Red Raw - LGBT Bars and Transgender Clubs in Izmir

Red Raw Club

Gay Bar 1471 Sokak, No: 45/A, Alsancak,  Izmir.
The Redraw Club has been established at the former site of the Ka Club. Little has changed besides the name of the establishment. The club’s patrons are mainly regular transvestites and their admirers, along with some rent-boys and gay men. 

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Monday, March 18, 2024

LGBT parties in Istanbul and other Turkish Cities

Michael Jackson - Tribute by Sergio Cortes
Date: May 28, 2024
Venue: TİM Show Center / Istanbul 

Sergio Cortés is a unique talent who revives the magic of Michael Jackson on stage. Reflecting Michael's legendary energy in every move and note, Sergio keeps the spirit of the iconic star alive through his appearance and stage charisma. With his passion and perfectionism, Sergio Cortés has become indispensable to fans worldwide, allowing you to experience Michael Jackson's music and legacy in its purest form.



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Gay Bars and Clubs in Istanbul

Information about gay bars and clubs in Istanbul

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Istanbul gay bars, gay clubs, discos, gay friendly cafe bars in Istanbul listed with up-to-date addresses, descriptions, visitor reviews, location maps and more



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Sunday, March 17, 2024

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دليل المثليين العملي في اسطنبول

دليل مختصر لإسطنبول يضم حانات المثليين والنوادي والفنادق والحمامات والساونا ومناطق الرحلات البحرية للمثليين، فضلاً عن أماكن المثليات والمتحولين جنسياً.

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Gay Friendly Hotels in Antalya

Alp Pasa OldTown - Boutique hotel

Antalya Gay Hotels 6
Price range: 34 / 59 Euros (low / high season)
This property is a 5-minute walk from the beach. Set in a historical Ottoman mansion dating back to the 18'th century, this modernly decorated property is encircled with lush gardens and early buildings. Alp Pasa Hotel is centered in Kaleici, Antalya. Featuring a convenient location, property is 851 m from Kaleici Marina and 400 m from Mermerli Beach. Famous Hadrian's Gate is only a 3 minute walk away. The two on-site a la carte restaurants of Alp Pasa has won 2017 World Luxury Restaurant Awards including Regional and Continent Winner Awards.


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Turkish Gay Discussion Forum

Gender identity of the transgender people have been recognized legally in Turkey since late 80's after having full transition operation and gender change operations have been performed for decades. They can get married and have completely equal rights after obtaining legal approval. You should've known this already if you have lived in Istanbul for a year. There may be LGBT-phobic cases in Turkey as it would be anywhere else in the world. All you need to do is to know your rights and fight for it when necessary. Germany can be more protective about discriminations against LGBT individuals but we read much more transphobic news from the USA compared to Turkey, actually. We have many transgender people in Turkey, including nationwide famous celebrities

Click here for Turkish LGBTQ celebrities.

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Saturday, March 16, 2024

Gay friendly cafe and restaurants in Istanbul

RestaurantCok Cok Thai Restaurant Pricy
Address:  Meşrutiyet Caddesi, No: 51, Beyoglu, Istanbul.
Website:  Cokcok.com.tr/ 
It is a Thai food restaurant located on Mesrutiyet street parallel to Istiklal avenue. When you walk from Taksim turn right from Galatasaray square, and take the first turn to left, and pass British Consulate.

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Ehli Keyif Bar - Gay & Bear Bars and Clubs in Izmir

Ehli Keyif Bar

Gay Bar 850 Sokak, No:43 Kemeralti, Konak / Izmir
Street View:  Click to see the entrance of the street on Google (2022)


The bar is located in the historic shopping district Kemeraltı, not far from Konak square and the famous Izmir Clock tower. You can miss the entrance, as it is located in a very small, back street. 






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Friday, March 15, 2024

Tekyon Club - Gay Bars and Clubs in Istanbul

LGBT VENUE REVIEWS
430TL (apprx $15) for entry drink included and 50TL for cloakroom (mandatory). Arrived after 1am on a Thursday and was playing some tacky house music.

Tekyon Club - Gay Bars and Clubs in Istanbul: Tekyon Club - Address, location map, pictures, videos, comments and selected guest reviews by Istanbul Gay Guide - the ultimate guide of gay bars, clubs and other LGBT venues in Istanbul

Bigudi Club - Lesbian Friendly Bars and Clubs in Istanbul


VENUE REVIEWS: Bigudi Club
"Very poor ventilation and everyone was smoking. Music wasn't great and it was nearly empty at midnight on a Saturday. Also it was extremely difficult to find it as it's located on the top floor of a building, the sign outside is tiny and easy to miss."


Antalya Gay Guide

Bigudi Club - Lesbian Friendly Bars and Clubs in Istanbul: Bigudi Club is the first ever exclusively lesbian night club in Turkey. Click here for guest reviews, party announcements, pictures, videos, location map and more information about Bigudi Club

Wednesday, March 13, 2024

XLarge - Gay Club in Istanbul

"We went there at 01:00 am and they want us to pay 500 TL (appx $15) at the entrance"


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Tuesday, March 12, 2024

Superfabric - Gay Club in Istanbul

Super Fabric, established in October 2014, is renowned for its highly professional concept shows that adhere to European standards. On Friday and Saturday nights, they typically charge a slightly above-average entrance fee, which becomes worthwhile when you consider the exceptional show quality


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Nous sommes allés au SuperFabric Club à l’été 2023. Vous payez 280 liras ($10) avec une boisson + vestiaire 30 liras. Une fois dans la salle on vous park comme des animaux et debout car les 3/4 du club sont soit disant réservés. musique moyenne. Personnel désagréable et dédaigneux. Nous sommes resté 30 mn le temps de boire notre consommation et sommes repartis. A FUIRE

Guide gay pratique et complet d'Istanbul - Mis à jour pour 2024: Liste complète des lieux LGBT à Istanbul. Un bref guide imprimable d'Istanbul présentant des bars, clubs, hôtels, hammams, saunas gays, lieux de drague gay, ainsi que des lieux lesbiens et transgenres.

Monday, March 11, 2024

Istanbul Gay Hotels. Gay and Lesbian Friendly Accommodation

W-HOTEL ISTANBUL (5*) - Gay Friendly Hotel

Location: Akaretler, Besiktas

Rates starting from 89 / 129 Euro (winter / summer)
Do not book this hotel elsewhere before comparing with our rates. Istanbul branch of international chain of gay-friendly W hotels is also one of most luxurious hotels of city. Located by the Bosphorus, a short taxi ride away from Taksim.

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Stay Club - Gay & Bear Club in Taksim

"Great music, fantastic atmosphere. Very lively and busy the Saturday night we went.
Bouncer says it’s free entry but actually it isn’t. It’s about £8.50 / 11 $ entry as you get to the main door but that includes free drink so quite acceptable."


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Stay Club - Gay & Bear Club in Taksim: Information about the Stay Gay Club in Taksim, Istanbulİ the meeting point of Turkish gay bears. Address, location map, pictures, reviews, events and party announcements.

Sahra Club - Transgender Clubs in Istanbull

Sahra, a prime example of Istanbul’s underground LGBT culture, is perhaps the most audacious among gay and transgender nightclubs. There might be hustlers here as there could be in any transgender hang-out place, so you'd better not go there with a lot of cash money


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Turkey, Izmir Gay Travel Guide. Cruising, Bars, Clubs, Hotels

Here are some other none-gay bars and clubs we can recommend

Gay Bars:  Maze Bar - Alsancak.
Gay Bars:  212 Alsancak Bar - Asancak
Gay Bars:  Buster Club - Alsancak
Gay Bars:  Henagout Cure - Bornova

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Bodrum - Travel Information and Online Map of Bodrum, Turkey

Zeki Muren Museum
The late, queer singer, Zeki Muren is the person who made Bodrum popular destination. The house in Bodrum where he spent his last days is a museum now exhibiting his personal collection and is worth visiting: Address: Kumbahce Mah. Zeki Muren Caddesi, No:11, Bodrum.


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Sunday, March 10, 2024

LGBT parties in Istanbul and other Turkish Cities

Chris Isaak
Venue: Harbiye Cemil Topuzlu Open Air Theatre
Date: 12 July, 2024
Door Opening: 20.00

Chris Isaak is Istanbul-bound! Get your tickets for the world-renowned artist’s first live performance in Istanbul for the 31st Istanbul Jazz Festival on 12 July, 2024.

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Best-known with his breakthrough hits ‘Wicked Game’, ‘Blue Hotel’ and ‘Baby Did A Bad Bad Thing’, Chris Isaak has performed to sold-out crowds across the globe with his longtime band Silvertone.



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Gay Bars and Clubs in Istanbul

Following bars and clubs have been closed-down many years ago:

Yesil Bizans, Queen, Dejavu, Barbahce, Kutu Bar, Club 14 (Ceylan's), Machine, Club 12, Shake-in Bar, Degirmen Pub, Ajda Club, Secret Club, Exit Club, Purple Club, Gabile Club, Hot Point (TT'S) Cafe, B Club, Bubble, Pincur's Cafe, Tantana Bar, Altenatif Club, Oz Club, Club 99, Hans Bar, Telve, Club Barisik. Rouge Bar, Elysion, Inside Cafe, Prive Club, OtherSide, Frappe Cafe, Ekoo Club, Neo Club, Sugar Cafe

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Saturday, March 9, 2024

Rocinante - Gay Bar in Istanbul

I am writing this review in reply to previous comment as someone who has no connection with this venue. I am really getting frustrated by the paranoiac tourists who claims they are being overcharged for the same money we Turkish people pay while for us the drink prices are twice more expensive for local economy standards compared to the European countries. 600 TL for 4 beer (150 TL / 5 $) is the cheapest beer you can find in a gay bar in Istanbul whether you are Turkish, American or Chinese. The waiter obviously offered you 100 Tl discount and you shamelessly giving 1 star review and claim to be scammed for just 3-4 dollar, instead of being grateful. Get a life !

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Thursday, March 7, 2024

2024 - 实用和完整的伊斯坦布尔同性恋指南

同性恋咖啡馆和酒吧

这些场所在晚上和午夜左右(大约在晚上 21:00 至凌晨 02:00 之间)更加繁忙。 当地饮料的价格约为 4-6 美元。 通常不需要支付入场费或衣帽间费。 其中大多数每天都会开放。


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Entrance and cloakroom fees would be compulsory especially during weekends in gay night clubs. They might also be closed during some weekdays.

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Saturday, March 2, 2024

Gay Bars and Clubs in Istanbul

NEW LISTING - Böcek Cafe @bocekcafe
🌈 Gay and Cat Friendly :) 🐱

Moda Cad, Bademaltı Sk. 17/Kadıköy

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Gay Friendly Hotels in Marmaris


Joya Del Mar Hotel

Marmaris Gay Hotels 2
Average Prices : 69 / 79 Euros (low / high season)
Offering a private yacht marina and a private beach, Joya Del Mar Hotel is located in Marmaris.

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Aktualisiert 2024 – Praktischer und vollständiger Gay-Guide für Istanbul

Mor Kedi Cafe - ganz klar unser Favorit der Gay Bars in Istanbul. Wie in allen Gay Bars in Istanbul höhere Preise, aber nicht so übertrieben wie bei den anderen. Die Mitarbeiter sind sehr freundlich, die Gäste sehr angenehm und man bekommt im Gegensatz zu den anderen Bars ein Bier im Glas und nicht einfach nur in der Flasche. Das war die einzige Bar, in der wir das Gefühl hatten, in der Community zu sein. Es ist nur sehr verraucht.

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Mor Kedi Cafe - Gay Cafe Bars in Istanbul


"We went at 1 pm on a Monday just to see it. So not really fair to review as we were the only people. The person there was nice and friendly , good English. I would like to have tried to visit when more people around. Reminded me of LGBTQ+ venues in the uk 30 years ago - a bit hidden. But we wanted to show support which is why we went."

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"Je suis toujours sur le charme de Mor Kedi Café , nous avons été super bien accueilli par les propriétaires. Ils nous ont indiqué plein d’endroits super sympa. Si vous visitez Istanbul il faut passer par ce café. Magnifique endroit"


Guide Pratique Gay d'Istanbul

Un bref guide imprimable d'Istanbul présentant des bars, clubs, hôtels, hammams, saunas gays, lieux de drague gay, ainsi que des lieux lesbiens et transgenres


Guide gay pratique et complet d'Istanbul - Mis à jour pour 2024: Liste complète des lieux LGBT à Istanbul. Un bref guide imprimable d'Istanbul présentant des bars, clubs, hôtels, hammams, saunas gays, lieux de drague gay, ainsi que des lieux lesbiens et transgenres.

Friday, March 1, 2024

Guía gay de Estambul

Love Dance Point es súper divertido local gay, maravilloso ambiente y música genial. Los camareros lo mejor de todo!

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Guía gay de Estambul

Tekyon Club, Estambul. 360 liras (10 Euro) por entrar con bebida, bastante caro ya que no es la fiesta de Barcelona (por poner un ejemplo), ...